Hi fellow arguers! Now that you
have your first speech in the bag, you are officially "argumentative." Or something like that....anyway, I want to know...what's up with mascots? Neve and Gliz are the goofy mascots for Torino's Winter Games on your right and for the Superbowl, we have a Seahawk named Blitz to your left....uh, well The Steelers don't have a mascot....they used to have some longshoreman dress up like an I-Beam in the eighties, but now, they just have bath towels...hmmm...An argument in its most simple for consists of data and claim...and a mascot is a visual argument...search the web a bit and make a claim here backed up by data (examples, stats, effects, evidence) that you can use it when you write your position paper (see p. 69) about mascots in general --or any of these mascots in particular or even the Steeler's lack of a Mascot, which is also a rhetorical statement.Ask yourselves:
1. What does a mascot do? What is it for? (This is teleological question for you A students, fyi)
2. Who is the mascot's audience, really?
3. Whose point of view are the characters seen from? (p. 57 in our book)
4. What ethnicity or gender are these mascots if any? Why?
Experiment with voice and take a strong rhetorical stance in your comments and respond to the questions above...backing your claims with data. Have fun with this and PUSH your critical thinking. Try to use vocabulary from our class in your response!
PS: Speaking of mascots, I think Hornets are scary, especially that gigantic two-story- one that gets tied to the library during Homecoming!
27 comments:
1)Help the cheerleaders cheer for the football team. According to Websters New World College Dictionary a mascot is any person,animalor thing to bring good luck and any person that is adopted in the group.
2)For children that comes to the game.
3)The author point of view or witness.
4)I think that they are Cauasian and the gender a male no these are not mascots.
1.A mascot is a member of a team that helps represents the team in a supporting way such as cheerleaders. A mascot would typically dance and cheer the team on and get the audience active in cheering too. A mascot is something, typically an animal or human character used to represent a group with a common public identity, such as a school, professional sports team (the name often corresponds with the mascot), society or corporation.
2.The real audience of the mascot is the fans and people who observe the game or the event that is taking place. Althought the mascot is there to support the team and help the team, his/her's main target is the people who come to the game and watched the show.
3.Anything such as a mascot or photo is actually a version of reality created by a person's idea or imagenation. So, whe it comes to the character of the mascot, the point of the mascot is seen from the creater of the mascot and the socitey of the team of the mascot.
4.In the past, in the United States, there has been controversy surrounding some mascot choices, especially those of human characters. Mascots based on Native American tribes have proven particularly contentious, as many argue that they constitute offensive exploitations of an oppressed race. So now, i believe most mascot are not charactered with a gender or ethnicity because of the problems that rose in the past, however it most commen that most mascot are male of random ethnicity.
~Mai V.
1. A mascot is simply there for the fans to enter into a state of reality they have not experienced since childhood. Mascots are engrained in the minds of fans as children, and thus, when they are reintroduced as an adult, the mascot reminds the fan of those carefree, childhood days, eventually leading to a euphoric sense of being when viewing the team.
2. The audience of the mascot is the fanbase that has already been created as youth. As mentioned above, children are succeptible to becoming enchanted with the character, and those fans that were trained as children, when adults, will again associate with the mascot.
3. The mascot is, in the strict sense, seen through the eyes of the author, or creator. However, when talking about a mascot, the audience creates the mascot to be more than just a man in a suit, but instead the projection of sports entertainment.
4. These mascots in question have no gender or sexual identity. They are truly androgynous in the sense that they are designed to not offend anyone and appeal to the widest fan base possible.
-Bill Simmons Coms2 Sec1
1. A mascot promotes the team by giving the audience a visual aid to who the team is (an aid that sticks like a rhyming name or such). It also hypes up the crowd.
2. The audience of the mascot is the opponent's team, and how best they promote their own team.
3. The team it is promoting.
4. Many times they generalize mascots within a caucasian decent to keep the American tradition alive.
-Erica Osborn Coms 2 11 AM
1. A mascot is a person, animal, or object believed to bring good luck, especially one kept as the symbol of an organization such as a sports team.
Personally, I think they serve little purpose but to be laughed at.
2. Kids who want a picture with the mascot (which means all the Steelers's young fans would have to get a picture with a bath towel)
3. It comes from the point of view of whoever created the character.
4. I really can't say too much for the towel, but I think the bird is a guy seeing as females can't play in the NFL. As for the Torino characters...They appear to be a male and female.
David Hine (Coms 2) 9 AM.
and I am signing up right now
1. What does a mascot do? What is it for? (This is teleological question for you A students, fyi)
-In some forms, like with brand names or corporations, a mascot represents that brand. When you see the "mascots" on the brands, it helps establish credibility and quality and things of that natures... most of the time that "mascots" that represent a company usually make those items more costly. A mascot as in school or sports team mascots are there to get the crowd hyped up for the team. To get the crowd to chant and root and scream and support the team. Mascots are also easier to "promote" the team, company, or whatever... when most people see a mascot, they know what it represents, often with out words, hybridity is not needed as much when using mascots. Mascots are a pathos and ethos type of visual aid. They stir up emotions but they also establish the credibility of a "brand".
2. Who is the mascot's audience, really?
-I think that the mascot's are for the supports of the team, company and what have you. The way that they are dressed aims them toward different demographics. I mean, I would call Mickey Mouse a "mascot" for Disney, and although many kids are in love with him, many adults are also. So I wouldn't say that mascot's audiences are for a younger demographic but I would say that they are for people to identify with because they love and support the team, company and brand and what not. A mascot is easy to identify with by most people.
3. Whose point of view are the characters seen from? (p. 57 in our book)
-I think that the characters are seen from the creators pov... They create these images in their heads and they bring it to life through drawings, animations, costumes or whatever mean they use. I think that mascots are created with pathos... it creates an emotion with in us, whether it be anger or joy or what have you.
4. What ethnicity or gender are these mascots if any? Why?
-I feel that most mascots are lacking an ethnicity unless they are clearly shown. It's hard to identify a bird or a lion. I think most of the time, a mascot can only be determined as a certain ethinicity by their voice or their clothing. Most mascots tend to look masculine, I think that is because they are usually able to appeal to both sexes, where as if the mascots was a woman, men probably wouldn't support the cause, so to speak, as much as if it were masculine.
1. A mascot is a representation of good luck. They highlight the value of participation by reminding us the pleasure of indulging in games. Also, mascots generate excitement in your business and get fans to root for your team.
2. The mascot's audience are the fans during games and consumers for businesses.
3. The characters are seen from the creators point of view.
4. Most mascots tend to be white males.
Melanie M.
Naomi D
1. A mascot is an object/person dressed as something, who represents what a group wants to be known as. Mascots are used by sports teams, school, businesses, etc. to communicate an idea, or an identity for what they represent.
2. The mascots audience depends on who it represents. A sports team mascot's audience would be the fans in a stadium, while a mascot for a business would be directed toward consumers.
3. The point of view would be that of those looking at it. The point of view has the possibility of changing for each person who looks at it, depending on their perspective on things.
4. Many mascots are animals, and the like, however, there are also mascots like Vikings (male or female) or even Indians. The decision on the ethnicity/gender of the mascot seems to be based on the traditions of an area/group or who the mascot is being directed to.
tony lam.
1 a mascot is a symbol of the team given movement. a mascot run around and trys to get the fans into the game, when this is done the team are feel suported and inturn do better.
2 the audience is the team and the fans. for the team it is a symbol and good luck charm, it also lightens the mood before a game. for the fans it is a clown, makin then feel better to cheer for the team more. in the end the mascots work is for the benifit of the team so the real audience is the team.
3 depends on the perspective. i see them as something stubid, a crazy fan of the team that would do anything to be part of it. some kid can see then as funny friends, grownups can see them as a side line shows when the actions is not intense, fans can see them as a consent reminder of why they are thier, to cheer up thier team and suport them.
4 i would say ethnicity depends on the team. the mascot would be a the same as the ethnicity they are workin for or the total reverse of it. gender would be up to the part the mascot plays. does it act like a feamale or male, wat animal is it, such stuff would contribute to how we see the mascot's gender.
Melanie H.
1. According to wikipedia.org, a mascot is "typically an animal or human character used to represent a group with a common public identity, such as a school (or) professional sports team." Mascots represent something to the team they work with. The basic criteria for a mascot is that it be fierce(when necessary). This way, the fans can back it up because they want their team to be fierce and win.
2. Mascots are primarily directed towards children (the "not fierce" aspect of their job) and the screaming fans who come to all of their team's games to support them. In some instnces, the mascot is directed towards the people in the audience who don't necessarily want to be there. They can help rally support from them with activities during breaks and free stuff. Evryone LOVES free stuff and it can help make a boring game tolerable.
3. Point of view depends on the person, of course, and their attitude. So a person's opinion of a mascot depends on whether they are a fan of the team the mascot represents or not. From a fan's point of view, the mascot is great (or not, I guess, depending on whether the mascot is ridiculous, like the mascots of many commercial businesses). However, a non-fan would hate the mascot because it represents something they don't support.
4. The gender of the mascot is generally male. There are factors that contribute to this: Most fans of sports teams are male. Most people would say that males are generally the "tougher" sex, which would help to contribute to the fierce aspect of the mascot. Like a previous blogger said, however, the ethnicity and gender would depend on who was inside... Of course, we don't usually assign ethnicity to animals.
Elizabeth Zepeda
1) A mascot is someone who keeps the audience/fans motivated whether their team is winning or losing. They are a symbol of entertainment. Their job includes running around and cheering.
2)A mascot can have many audience whether your young or old. In the CSUS football team the mascot is the Hornet and the audience is the fans.
3) Each person has their own point of view regarding the mascot. For the sports fans the mascot represents hope that helps contruct the argument that the team will win.
4) I dont really think that there is a certain gender for a mascot either females or males can be a mascot. However, I think that most mascots are males then again who can determine who the mascot is under all that clothes.
Blog from Daphne Massey
1. A mascot is the representative and affectionate symbol of a school that defines character and spirit. The mascot is the center or model of strength that people, fans and team members, draw upon for energy, support, and entertainment.
2. The mascot's audience is comprised of fans, teammates, alumni, and coaches.
3. Everyone has their own personal point of view regarding a team's mascot. To me a mascot represents the life and energy of a team;however, to a teammate the mascot might represent an external motivation tool providing a source of energy for the team. A mascot's character changes upon who or what is viewing the mascot.
4. I don't think that mascots represent a particular ethnicity or gender. I believe that mascots are their own species in which a mascot can either be a human( a cowboy), an animal ( a seahawk or eagle), or an object ( such as heat for the Miami Heat or knicks for the New York Knicks).
1. What does a mascot do? What is it for?
For me, a mascot is an entertainment who provides motivation and excitement for a particular sport or team.
2. Who is the mascot's audience, really?
The fans would be the audience. It doesn't matter who they are, as long as they are there to support a team.
3. Whose point of view are the characters seen from? (p. 57 in our book)
For a fan, a mascot represents motivation. For someone who’s a little younger, a mascot can be seen as a friend and or hero. Also, mascots can be seen as the energy provider.
4. What ethnicity or gender are these mascots if any? Why?
I don’t believe that mascots have a particular ethnicity. Mascots can be anyone who would like to provide motivation, energy, and fun for the fans and or team. A mascot can either be male or female. Gender is not a factor although mostly male is seen as mascots. However, when I was in high school, our mascot was a female and her gender did not matter to us because all we cared about was the entertainment and the support that she was giving us the fans.
Joy B. (Coms 2)
1. A mascot raises enthusiasm for the fans and supports the team/organization. It is another way for fans to connect with their team.
2.The mascots audience other than itself (they seem to really enjoy themselves) would be the team/organization, and the fans.
3.The characters point of view is most likely seen from the team/organizations owners as a way to promote the team.
4. Gender and ethnicity? Are we talking about all mascots or the pictures on the blog....I'm confused by some of the answers. The seahawk looks a bit masculine and Neve and Gliz look like a male and female speaking Italian!
Tara S. Sec 03
1) The mascot is supposed to be like the cheerleaders. They pump uup the crowd.
2) I think they are geared toward the kids. The kids get more out of the mascots.
3) The mascot has to do with the name of the team. Usually the name of the team is their mascot.
4) I don't think that mascots represent a particular ethnicity or gender. They are their own species. They can be human, animal, or object.
Laura Ludke
1. Mascots are used as to get the crowd excited. They are used for the same thing as cheerleads, to draw in differnt types of crowds.
2. Mascots mostly appeal to the kids who they are usually interacting with at the games. The also can help get the crowd or even the players hyped.
3. The mascot point of view is probably the organisation wanting to draw in more diverce fans and hype there team up.
4. I think teams try and stay away from having their mascot be race or gender specific due to the fact all the ones that used to be race specific have had problems with getting sued (Indians;Bullets)
Brian Lamphiear
1. Mascots are used to get the crowd more involved with the game and for mostly friendly competition
2.Mascots are really for the die hard fans and the children,they're just another sign of the competition.
3.The characters are seen from the players competive point of view
4. The mascots I think are predominantly male because men are suppose to be strong and rugged. Although, the ethnicity if any would be a lot of Native Americans and also Caucasian. The Native Americans because from what history books tell us they were warriors and always ready for battle. The Caucasians because history books have shown us that they are always ready to take what they think is rightfully theirs.
KAMRA JACOBS COMS 2
1. A mascot is a promotional tool. It is used to get crowds excited. It excites children and draws more people to the event.
2. The mascot's audience is really the kids who go to the events, usually with their parents. It is a tool to keep them entertained and excited. They work as like the hired "laughman" to excite the fans/audience.
3. I think the mascot is from the point of view from the organization. However, they probably hired someone to tell them who their audience is and how the mascot should be designed and what the name and look should be.
4. Mascots don't usually represent any ethnicity or gender. I don't think people really care about the ethnicity or gender of mascots. Although I would argue that there are very few female mascot "characters".
1. A mascot's purpose is to rally the team's fan base into excitment and involvement by entertaining the crowd and queing them to get loud and cheer on their team.
2. The mascot's audience is everyone who wants to pay attention to him/her/it (?). I believe most people attending sports events do enjoy the antics of the team mascot and therefore do pay attention.
3. I think the mascot is seen by the point of view of the organization. It is used as a visual aid- a representative of the team- to promote marketing and a good repoir with the fans.
4. I do not see mascots as having an ethnicity or a gender. Honestly, I have never thought much about this, but now that I do, I say it is a matter of personal opinion. An individual can make the mascot fit their imagination...if a little 5 year old girl wants Slamson (Sac Kings mascot who is stated to be a male lion)to be a pretty princess with a gorgeous tierra and pigtails, then that is exactly what Slamson should be to her! Get my point?
Oh by the way, that last entry is from me, Shelby S.
SORRY!!!!!
1. Mascots are there to bring up the fan's morale, they are a symbol of the team. I feel that their job is to make sure everyone at the games are having fun and the lighten the mood.
2. The mascot's audience is a more child demographic. Yeah i get pretty anxious when i a see a mascot, but even at disneyland the characters are more for the children or the young at heart.
3. The point of view comes from the creator and the author.
4. i do not think that the ethinicity or gender comes into play but usually they are male, but if they are in a costume it really doesnt matter.
the last comment was done by adam tibon
Bee Moua coms2
1. According to the American Heritage® Dictionary a mascot is a "person, animal, or object believed to bring good luck, especially one kept as the symbol of an organization such as a sports team." Refering to this definition I believe that, like the rest of the class it helps excites the audience and encourage the players. And as the definition stated it is there for luck.
2. I believe that the mascot's audience is the croud watching the game because it helps excites them and the team because it helps bring them good luck.
3. The point of view that the characters are seen from is the creator because he/she wants to protray something that the team can relate to.
4. The ethnicity of the mascots could be anything, but the gender are usually male because the mascots are usually heavy and they have to sometimes do stunts, which could be hard for a female to do.
1. A mascot represents a school or a team.
2. The mascot is for anyone watching a game, giving them an idea what the team is all about.
3. Depending on what type of mascot and what colors it has, it can either be expressing their strengths or weakness.
4. I agree w/ Jessica about the ethnicity, I dont think a mascot would be any ethnicity so everyone watching the game can relate to the game.
Travis White Coms2
1.A mascot gets everyone pumped up for a big game, and makes an image for the school.
2.A mascot is the people who attend the event.
3.The mascot is seen however the school or team wants it to be seen.
4.i dont think ethnicity or gender really matters, its not always a male or female or a certian race. It all depends on the character.
1. A mascot is to help fans get into the games. They are there to interact with the fans who come to support the team. The mascot works with the cheer team to hand out towels and other items to show team spirt.
2. The mascot's audience is for younger people in the crowd. The mascot tends to go towards people who might not know the rules of basketball but know it is fun to watch.
3. Mascots are visual evidence for the team. They help people relate to the teams.
4. The mascots can vary from team to team but a mascot such as Jack the Bulldog at Georgetown University is a real dog that attends games. It is a breed not a ethnicity but it is a male.
James P. CommS 2
Brandon Wolfe - Coms 2
1. What does a mascot do? What is it for?
Its purpose is to motivate the crowd, and cultivate enthusiasm. At least in theory. Personally, they make me feel embarrassment for the chump in the huge felt animal costume.
2. Who is the mascot's audience, really?
The people in the stands. And felt-animal-costume fetishists.
3. Whose point of view are the characters seen from?
Again, the people in the stands, I reckon. I don't really grasp the question, and P. 57 isn't helping me much.
4. What ethnicity or gender are these mascots if any? Why?
They're mostly animals, are they not? Except maybe the mascots for the Braves or the Redskins. They're way racist.
B. Wolfe
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